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 Heroes! overused? underused? why!?

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PostSubject: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:43 pm

ive lately been experimenting with a couple of the less used heroes and those that i have never seen picked and they all seem to be sub-par with the regularly used heroes. ex. i was using beast master today, and he was god an all, but his base hp isnt all that great, his cast times fail, his ms is equal to a slugs, and his bat isnt all that great either.

thats just one example. im not posting to whine, but mostly just to ask you guys this: what heros do you think are best out of the relatively new ones, not including those that are used constantly (agi panda guy, int panda guy, preist)? bloodmage is pro, as is walking mountain for tanks.

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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:49 pm

you should wait for the new edit to continue this post; as 30 heroes were changed in minor ways in it. mostly, very minor.

however, for me, the dominating factors are starting mana and move speed... but, i am an int user who likes to kite...
Some people think AGI is most important... I generally rank it last; so as that I can get AGI items, and have the STR gain to stay alive.

The melee wisp is really underused, but his base stats are like.. the highest in the game. err, his stat gain also. but, kinda slow, low HP melee int? so very hard to use!

then you get to the skelly archer, who.. the fact that he is 600 ranged STR makes him pretty OP; but, the fact that his stats are bland, and he has slower move speed... makes him unused. He is the STR equiv of the the ranger... which is also unused...

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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:51 pm

wisp has bs str and agi.... BUT i will try messing around with skele archer and wisp and seeing what i can comeup with
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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:53 pm

.. and really high mana... and armor... and good BAT...
throw mana shield on him, and some long range farming skills, and he is a beast.... ive seen people hit 10 with him for duel... you just gotta stay alive....

Go pick him; get frost fall, holy light, banish, terrap; see how you do...

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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:54 pm

hooray for basic int builds! will-do
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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:15 pm

well... advanced builds are harder to use, right? If you see how well a basic one works, then you will be compelled to believe an advanced one can work well (be it the truth or not)

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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:23 pm

You know whats sad Teckies kicks ass I mean look at them 750 range great base damage easily enough mana to cast most spells. I honestly expected the masses who spammer baited Frost Demon to flocked over to him but surprise barely any usage such a shame really.

Heroes I never see used or well top 2 least picked for their class.
Strength
Spider (Never bothered to play him but so far only seen him like twice and both times the players failed horribly)
Dread Lord (Night Stalker) Hes the one with +3s across the bored just compare him to slithery and you know why hes so under used. Its kind of funny when he lost his vamp nobody gave a fuck about him anymore and avoided him like the plague.

Intell
Hard to say so many like the play int now or days.
I get back to this one.

Agility
Pain Killer (Ive yet to see painkillers go uber pawnage except vs a bunch of mental apes)
Spell Breaker (Since the intro of the level 5 rock guy this dude went from barely used to almost never used)
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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:28 pm

i tried using the wisp once, and i did find him actually pretty strong, his ms was ratehr low for my liking though, but nothing boots cant fix. that with acid rain as a farming skill; he turned out to be quite the hero, a new found favorite of mine actually Smile

hope it turns out the same for you User
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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:28 am

hmm well ill be out of net for a few days ill mess around with a few of the these heros my self n see what i can come back with Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:55 am

I think i am literally the only person i have ever seen pick the ranged spider on purpose... though he is a freaking beast
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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:34 pm

i take fs 90% of my games as more of a "i can use this flexible hero on any build what do you think im going to go?" kinda thing then because he is always the best hero on my builds honestly the biggest thing is i dont want to give that up without a good reason
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PostSubject: Re: Heroes! overused? underused? why!?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:34 pm

Well, my favorites are:

Strength: Tauren Chieftain, just because no one uses very often. The Scarab Lord guy is pretty cool too. Put spikes and give him Impale with Locusts and he's legit, literally.

Intelligence: Naga Please Witch, she's got a great personality.

Agility: Honestly, I rarely use Agility. I can't do shit with 'em.
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