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PostSubject: need help!!   Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:58 pm

i need help with thuis build

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frost fall
mana flare
endurance
reg bonus
ele mastery

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PostSubject: Re: need help!!   Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:44 am

Well you have 3 skills you need to level early-mid game I suggest swapping out either mana flare for a one point disrupt or swapping out end aura for a one point disrupt or something you would get more use out of late game.But you really just need to ask yourself what you want to get out of the build in general.

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PostSubject: Re: need help!!   Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:33 am

well, it only works with late game, and without being cased something, i've changed to pulverize, and divine shield, until lvl 20 started to do some progress
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PostSubject: Re: need help!!   Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:05 am

the ghoul can support monsoon, so lvl that to 5-6, while off lvling endurance and putting a few points into flare depending on how much spell dmg you are facing.
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PostSubject: Re: need help!!   Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:07 pm

The ghoul is pretty ugly, id suggest switching him out for a better looking hero, maybe priest.

Frost fall sounds good on paper, but when you say the name it doesn't really go off your tongue well, fall just doesn't fit with frost, i would suggest going frost nova instead, makes it easier to tell your friends what your build is, since the syllables in nova just fit with frost you know?

Mana flare sounds like it might be good, since it counters casters and countering casters is good, but in reality they just get ams and no moar countering, which is why you gotta look at the big picture here, i feel like im looking at a 10x10 picture and ur looking at a 5x5 picture, let me show u how you look at the big picture. Now what do ints do? they cast spells at u that own u up. How can you stop them from owning you up? you gotta go invisible. Invisibility will pwn all challengers cuz they cant beat u.


Endurance looks kewl, but i think banish looks kewler cuz it makes em all green and transparent and stuff, banish is epic cuz what if instead of making u faster u make them slower? logic is fun.

Regen bonus is bad cuz when ur ganking ur regen doesnt matter ur movespeed matters so you should just get sprint instead so u can catch them when dey try and run away.

Ele mastery looks good when u look at it but if u read the small print on teh tooltip it sez that u has to have years of study so basically u get cool stuff but u have to turn into a uber nerd and nobody wants that, u better just pick something that dont require u to go uber nerd liek silent night is good cuz it deal gud dmg but u dont gotta waste mana and shit.

There you go bro, ur build has been VENOM-afied
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PostSubject: Re: need help!!   Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:52 pm

Honestly I would switch a couple of skills around in that build. I would replace frost fall for breath of fire as it is more instant and better fitting for a melee hero. I would keep flare because eating into the enemies AMS will allow your allied nukes to be more effective. That assumes of course that they bought AMS potions. I would replace endurance aura with poison sting because ghoul already has decent enough movement speed and building attack speed shouldn't be a problem. Last but not least I would switch regeneration with 20% chance to bash so I could interrupt those nasty channels.

So taking my suggestions into account the final product is

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Breath of Fire
Mana Flare
Poison Sting
20% Chance to Bash
Element Mastery

Prioritize Breath of fire and level Flare along side it while taking about a point of poison before each duel.
Invest about 12 points into Breath
Invest about 12 points into Flare
Invest about 11 points into Poison

Well I hope that helps give it a go and let me know how it works.
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PostSubject: Re: need help!!   Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:00 pm

That's some good advice careful, but you assumed that he was using that build in team games when he didn't specify whether it was a 1v1 build or a team build.
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PostSubject: Re: need help!!   Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:07 pm

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i have a big question, and well, that was on the other versions of char, poison sting is "reduced" or somehting like that when they have anything that it goes of mana like 50% mana reduc, well, i dont know if in this ver is going on like that ... well, thanks for the advice i will change the stuff, and another question, banish ... slowing them ... but i cant attack them? at least if i have frost fall, or frost nova and well, its for both cases 1v1 or teams, the only good shit is that hit owns in mid game
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